WisCon Linkspam

[laceblade]

At this point, I need to do a linkspam because I have 5 browser windows open, and in one of those browser windows, 82 tabs. It's linkspam with minimal commentary because I'm at home dealing with a family death. So if you fail in my comments, I will come for you eventually.

Please read my 101 Primer before commenting; I will know if you didn't.

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There was some fail on a few panels/at the Con in general. As always, read the comments.

shadesong was on the Take Back the SF Panel and posts about what happened here.

asim on the "Take Back the SF Panel here.

hps_sterling here.

karnythia briefly discusses the Take Back the SF panel here.

commodorified posts here, self-proclaiming that she committed fail at the Porn Crushes the Patriarchy panel by being unaware of what had already taken place at the Take Back the SF panel.

thewayoftheid posts here.

If you're really serious about making Wiscon a POC-safe space, you must step your muthafukkin' game up.

karnythia on Wiscon Squee and Fail or Why I Still Don't Love Cons. Fail in the comments.

vito_excalibur has commentary to the comments on the posts being made.

But to everyone responding with "that's why I would never go to Wiscon! that's why I don't call myself a feminist! because it's all about bashing men!"?

You're right. You're absolutely right. That is, in fact, what Wiscon is all about. I was totally lying in my previous post. In reality I've spent the last three days physically beating on a selection of men which the concom had tied up and prepared for us before we got there. With occasional breaks for taunting, and yoga. I don't think you'd enjoy it. You should probably not come.

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Special Bonus
Elizabeth Bear, What My Job Is Not
brown_betty already inadvertently responded, by writing in response to Wrede's Thirteenth Child here.

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cofax7 has a writeup of pretty much all of her panels the panels she attended here.

vito_excalibur with another writeup of all her panels and links to other things as well here.

littlebutfierce live-blogged the Class panel here, which was awesome because I did not take any notes but WTF WITH THAT FAILTASTIC AUDIENCE MEMBER. The panel itself was good.

takumashii live-blogged the book cover panel.

takumashii live-blogged the Authorial Intent panel.

badgerbag suggests people holding their own Girlycons everywhere ever, here. cabell, WILL YOU DO A GIRLYCON WITH ME?! I will bring "Ever After" and "Little Women" and Princess Tutu and Sailor Moon!

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Lastly....programming is open already for next year's WisCon! So all of those ideas you're afraid you might forget? You can submit them now! Do it!

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I feel like we could start assigning points to fail.

For example...."We've got a spectacular Fail-Dive over here in the comments to Person X's post. Not only did the Failer take a conversation originally about POC and make it about their hurt white feelings, but they also chastised POC who called them out on it! This fail is 10 points."
And then someone could be like, "I have to disagree with you there, Bob. The Failer also immediately posted in their own LJ about how mean POC are, and how she's thinking of suspending her LJ account because she 'can't take it.' The drama easily makes this fail hit 13 points."

Comments

[troubleinchina.livejournal.com]

That was me who stormed out, because I was overtired and knew I was going to react by screaming at him. Grrrrrr. I mean, really How many times did he have to be told?

(He started out irritating me by saying before the panel, when there were only a few people in the room, that he was coming just to argue with the Marxist. ... Yeah.)

[wrdnrd]

I'm so glad to know who stormed out because i've been wanting to apologize for about 3 days now. As the mod, i am SO SORRY. I should have controlled his interruptions better. My sincerest apologies! I deeply regret that the question period reached a point where you had to leave. I should have prevented that.


he was coming just to argue with the Marxist

Yeah, as Jackie says upthread, WHAT MARXIST?! I tried to clearly state in the panel title that we were looking BEYOND Marxism!! I hate people who come to a panel just spoiling for a fight. GRRRR. If i'd known that, i might have kept him shut down from the very beginning, because, seriously?, that is not contributing to the discussion.


PS: That is pretty much the best icon ever.

[troubleinchina.livejournal.com]

I has all the best icons!

Please don't feel that way, if you can avoid it. For me, at least, it was really heavily influenced by my state of tired - I'd been up for all the 8:30 panels and not been doing the proper 5/2/1 thing, and was wilting.

I got BC's email address later and am intending to talk a bit about some stuff that came up. Mostly, though, I'm looking for book recs because I have all this spare time and a library card.

[wrdnrd]

Thank you for the extra context of why you needed to walk out -- it helps me put things in better perspective! It was my 1st time moderating a panel, so i think i've been prepared to take on a lot of responsibility for how it went.

I'm glad to hear there's been so much extra-panel discussion going on about this topic! That is the best possible outcome i could hope for! I see that BC has already starting working on a proposal for another class panel for next year (sparked by oyceter's question during this year's Q&A), and i'm really looking forward to it.

[badgerbag.livejournal.com]

Dude I just want to know who that was ! Dying! To ! Know!

[mystickeeper.livejournal.com]

Oh don't worry, I'll PM you right now, :)

[wrdnrd]

DANG. Should i delete my comment? Or would you like to?

[mystickeeper.livejournal.com]

I'm okay with it not being deleted; I'm sure everyone wants to know anyway.

[wrdnrd]

Ok! I offered to delete it because i just don't want you to be a target for him if he decides to mix it up. I mean, if he'd like to mix it up and enjoys arguing with Marxists, i have a suggestion for him.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

[vito-excalibur.livejournal.com]

I think I know who you are thinking of, and I APPROVE.

[wrdnrd]

Let me put it this way: Are you pronouncing the asterisk??

[badgerbag.livejournal.com]

partly just cause I like to know if it's always the same person doing that but everyone's too polite to mention it, so it keeps happening every year, etc and so on!

[wrdnrd]

I've been told that our interrupter par excellence was apostle_of_eris.