WisCon Linkspam

[laceblade]

At this point, I need to do a linkspam because I have 5 browser windows open, and in one of those browser windows, 82 tabs. It's linkspam with minimal commentary because I'm at home dealing with a family death. So if you fail in my comments, I will come for you eventually.

Please read my 101 Primer before commenting; I will know if you didn't.

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There was some fail on a few panels/at the Con in general. As always, read the comments.

shadesong was on the Take Back the SF Panel and posts about what happened here.

asim on the "Take Back the SF Panel here.

hps_sterling here.

karnythia briefly discusses the Take Back the SF panel here.

commodorified posts here, self-proclaiming that she committed fail at the Porn Crushes the Patriarchy panel by being unaware of what had already taken place at the Take Back the SF panel.

thewayoftheid posts here.

If you're really serious about making Wiscon a POC-safe space, you must step your muthafukkin' game up.

karnythia on Wiscon Squee and Fail or Why I Still Don't Love Cons. Fail in the comments.

vito_excalibur has commentary to the comments on the posts being made.

But to everyone responding with "that's why I would never go to Wiscon! that's why I don't call myself a feminist! because it's all about bashing men!"?

You're right. You're absolutely right. That is, in fact, what Wiscon is all about. I was totally lying in my previous post. In reality I've spent the last three days physically beating on a selection of men which the concom had tied up and prepared for us before we got there. With occasional breaks for taunting, and yoga. I don't think you'd enjoy it. You should probably not come.

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Special Bonus
Elizabeth Bear, What My Job Is Not
brown_betty already inadvertently responded, by writing in response to Wrede's Thirteenth Child here.

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cofax7 has a writeup of pretty much all of her panels the panels she attended here.

vito_excalibur with another writeup of all her panels and links to other things as well here.

littlebutfierce live-blogged the Class panel here, which was awesome because I did not take any notes but WTF WITH THAT FAILTASTIC AUDIENCE MEMBER. The panel itself was good.

takumashii live-blogged the book cover panel.

takumashii live-blogged the Authorial Intent panel.

badgerbag suggests people holding their own Girlycons everywhere ever, here. cabell, WILL YOU DO A GIRLYCON WITH ME?! I will bring "Ever After" and "Little Women" and Princess Tutu and Sailor Moon!

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Lastly....programming is open already for next year's WisCon! So all of those ideas you're afraid you might forget? You can submit them now! Do it!

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I feel like we could start assigning points to fail.

For example...."We've got a spectacular Fail-Dive over here in the comments to Person X's post. Not only did the Failer take a conversation originally about POC and make it about their hurt white feelings, but they also chastised POC who called them out on it! This fail is 10 points."
And then someone could be like, "I have to disagree with you there, Bob. The Failer also immediately posted in their own LJ about how mean POC are, and how she's thinking of suspending her LJ account because she 'can't take it.' The drama easily makes this fail hit 13 points."

Comments

[antarcticlust.livejournal.com]

Thanks! There are a ton of journals I'd like to add, but I'm a bit shy if I didn't meet someone personally. I'm such a noob, and I'm not really part of any of the fandoms...

I want to talk to people about panel ideas for next year. Are you thinking of anything? I have tons of ideas.

[mystickeeper.livejournal.com]

Honestly, I haven't had time to think much beyond, "I wish there would be some anime/manga programming," and I know that some of us were talking about making a "Do you need to read the source material in order to read the fanfiction?" panel.

Programming submissions are open (in the past they waited until January or something); beyond that, I suggest just posting it in your LJ and being like, "Would anyone else find this interesting?"

Post-WisCon friending seems pretty common. Even if I don't have a chance to meet people in person, I'm all, "Hey, I think you're cool and I'm friending you, no pressure to friend me back."

[antarcticlust.livejournal.com]

I will make such a post. I don't have many Wiscon friends, but I'll see what comes out of it!

[mystickeeper.livejournal.com]

If you make it public, I can link to it.

[antarcticlust.livejournal.com]

SQUEE!

[takumashii.livejournal.com]

So, what I am thinking in regards to the manga panel, is that we need a fairly broad, basic topic that will let a variety of people participate as panelists or as audience members even if they haven't read a LOT of manga and even if they hadn't all read the same manga. The "Shoujo Bodies" quasi-spontaneous panel from last year was so thinky and so awesome, but if you haven't read Helter Skelter and Afterschool Nightmare and the other half-dozen manga that were covered -- you're sort of left out of it, though with an impressive list of recommendations.

I'm wondering if it would be more appropriate to focus a panel specifically on booktalking manga, or booktalking manga within a specific genre, or covering certain trends in manga and taking those trends as jumping-off-points for booktalking. I think the panel I was on this year, on new YA SF/F, went rather well as a format for talking about manga -- we started with some broad comments on the YA field and what was popular and what was trendy and what was significant, and followed that up with booktalking.

We do need more manga programming at WisCon, and that's one of the things I'll happily focus on next year if I get to go.

[badgerbag.livejournal.com]

I like to read fic even if I haven't watched the source. Wikipedia episode summaries are much faster!