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Another BSG post!
I think that I discuss about one million things in this post. But it was a good way to unwind after finishing 2 midterms and about to make myself start for the next one.
All right, I started writing this entry a while ago, obviously, but haven't finished it because I've been swamped with homework and midterms. Now that 2/3 of this week's midterms are over with (Spring Break for me starts the same day as the finale!), I'll write.
Also, a random question: If Ron Moore's wife is an avid reader of the boards, do you think she reads LJ, too? She should! We probably write a lot more thoughtfully than those on the boards, and are probably less ranty, ;D
Podcast for The Captain's Hand
Holy crap, does Ron Moore sound ridiculously sarcastic in the 'Captain's Hand' podcast - are people really that whiney about background noises in the podcast?
Oh my God, he even got his wife in on it at the end!!! That was SO FUNNY! So sarcastic! RDM, you win at life.
Downloaded
I've always felt a little queasy about Caprica!Sharon (well, now Galactica!Sharon....let's just all call her Mom, okay??), but seriously, who the hell strangles Doctor Cottle?! BITCH! But no matter which Sharon Valerii....Grace Park sucks at acting angry.
When Anders was first on the show, I was not a fan. But now that Lee is whoring it up with Dee....ANDERS! I'd forgotten how hot he was, ;D I hope Kara finds some happiness with him. (By the way....wtf is up with her hair in the promos?! Do 3 months pass or something?)
Gaius is a hell of a lot more attractive when we get to see him as a manipulative bastard inside of Six's head. Although, in terms of being physically attractive, he really needs to cut his hair.
I am SO EXCITED for the next two episodes!! I love BSG when it's like this - all these random seeds planted attached with strings and then somebody pulls on the threads all at once and they come together. I miss the Chief.
If, as the episode and podcast "Downloaded" seem to definitely imply, the Six in Baltar's head is really an extension of himself...does this mean that Baltar is subconsciously really religious? He's always using Six to tell himself to just wait and trust in God. Watching this show is like peeling an onion. The layers have no limits.
Lay Down Your Burdens, part 1
I want Baltar propaganda!
I really loved watching Roslin get the giggles. In the podcast, Ron Moore said that David Eick didn't want it in there, but I'm really glad that they kept it. It seems very real, and I think everyone has had moments when they just can't stop giggling (or maybe that's just me, since it happens every day). Watching Admiral Adama take her arm and having her just collapse giggling on him was so funny - I really love watching their relationship. It's so cute, so necessary, and so natural.
Sharon says there's something dark lurking....a nuclear bomb, perhaps?! My roommate (on Friday nights, my friends are forced to have BSG playing in the background while I sit in rapt attention in front of the television) keeps asking hey, where is the nuke? And I think, OMG I KNOW! Also, hooking her up to the computers after she thinks they killed her baby doesn’t seem like the best plan. Wahhh, what if they DO settle on this planet, and that's when the nuke is used?! That would be teh suck, liek whoa.
The scene with Lee/Kara was kind of sad, when he told her that he hoped she finds Anders. After watching him in "Scar," I really do think that he loves her, but just wants her to be happy. Oh Lee, you are so gallant!
This Tyrol storyline reminds me of the “Noel” episode from The West Wing, with Josh. And I know somebody else wrote a huge thing on it, so kudos to them. The link is here. I agree that Noel is way better - but I mean, I don't really think there's anybody alive on the planet who could outwrite Aaron Sorkin. I do think RDM probably ripped off the plot idea - he has made references to The West Wing in the past.
I really didn't think it was necessary for the Chief to think that he was a Cylon (and maybe he didn't - could've just been a misguided inference made by the chaplain). I mean, the woman he loves passionately turns out to be a Cylon, and not only that, but she is shot dead by one of his closest friends. Not only THAT, but an exact copy of the woman he loves is in love with someone else, and carries his child. Not only all of this, but humanity is all but wiped out, and I'm sure that the Chief has a lot of stress to deal with. I don't think it's outside of the realm of possibility for him to be having depression issues or suicidal tendencies.
Also, I don't understand the connection between his suicidal dreams and beating Cally in his dreams. A friend of mine has pointed out that the violent beating would be appropriate for someone with Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (what Josh had in The West Wing, actually!), but it doesn't make sense that someone who's depressed/suicidal would physically lash out like that. Having some interesting years in high school myself, the only thing that makes sense to me would be a mentality of "I have to fight the darkness, I have to beat it back, you will not defeat me, you sonofabitch get outside of my head" etc. - but for this to be the case, I think that there would need to be a lot more explanation.
I thought that the chaplain had some good points about religion, but his conclusion that the Chief thinks he's a Cylon seemed drawn out of nowhere to me. And I think that this was trying really hard to parallel the end of the scene from "Noel" in The West Wing, when the psychologist Stanley tells Josh that they're done and he can leave and Josh says, "No, we're not done! I haven't even talked about my feelings yet!" and is left bewildered. It worked really well in The West Wing. But in Battlestar Galactica, it really feels like a lot of times, they do shock-value for the sake of doing shock-value. Because "that is what Battlestar Galactica is." But for shock to be effective, it needs to make sense in context. And while the larger concept of Chief thinking he might be a Cylon is plausible, they need to do a better job of explaining it. If they're going to bother flashing back to the Chief's dream, then maybe they could flashback to situations with Sharon - her freaking out to the Chief in "Water," etc. as he slowly realizes that the person he loves is a Cylon. It's not like it would cost more money.
Instead of using this plotline to fill up space, I think it would be great for them to bring some kind of psychologist on the Galactica and have everyone deal with their crap for an episode. Everyone in the fleet should be experiencing psychological trauma, but I guess the show can only deal with it one person at a time, with an entire episode devoted to it so that they can promptly forget about it (See "Black Market" and "Scar").
“People vote their hopes, not their fears.” Really? I guess they don’t know the results of the 2004 election! I was quite gleeful when I listened to Ron Moore saying that he and (David Eick? I think?) had the same argument. Of course, it depends on the election cycle and who's running, but excepting Ronald Reagan, I would definitely say that people vote their fears. Fear is more immediate. People are too cynical of politics to vote for everything that they hope a candidate will give them. Even if there is a hopeful platform, executive powers do not act independently - they have Congress to contend with, and I think that the president of the fleet has to deal with the Quorum?
It seemed like from the teaser for next week's episode, that Baltar would win. I really hope that he doesn't. Not because I think Roslin makes a better president (I mean, I do think that, but that's not why I'd be disgusted), but because I think it would be ridiculous for everyone to vote for Baltar just to settle on this planet. Everyone wants to settle down, obviously, but I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that the last 50,000 people comprising humanity are willing to sacrifice pleasure in order to stay alive. It's not just Roslin who should be pragmatic - when there are only 50,000 people left, then everyone is pragmatic. That's just how it is. How much of this planet have they checked out, anyway? How do they know the Cylons don't already know about it or make regular stops (I know someone in the episode said this, but I can't remember who).
Not being afraid of Cylons doesn't make them go away.
Also...that said, aren't there more Cylons in the fleet?? What the hell are they doing? Their goal seemed to be to destroy humanity, but now it just seems like they're keeping humans around to fuck with them.
I did like the 'There you go again!' quip by Roslin. Hearkening to real politics is always fun....but sometimes "hearkening back" can get old, too. It happened a lot this season in The West Wing, too - with the Santos/Vinick election stealing countless issues and comments right out of the Bush/Kerry race.
I loved that Starbuck kept saying "Team Starbuck" - OMG she saw this icon!!
Podcast for LYBD, part 1
I love listening to RDM's podcasts! Talking about Roslin saying, "Go frak yourself," and saying "A president would never do that....a vice president on the Senate floor, maybe." His political knowledge is so fun! Listening to him and his wife is so funny! They must sit and talk about BSG fandom all the time. So funny! So cute! "My wife does not read the boards! She is not reading them any more!"
"Why don't you want them to know?"
"They'll work you over!"
"....She's sort of an Ellen Tigh...." Ha, ha, ha.....
The finale is a risk and they're betting a lot?!?! Some of us will hate it!? His wife hated it?! And then loved it?!! OMG, WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN?????
All right, I started writing this entry a while ago, obviously, but haven't finished it because I've been swamped with homework and midterms. Now that 2/3 of this week's midterms are over with (Spring Break for me starts the same day as the finale!), I'll write.
Also, a random question: If Ron Moore's wife is an avid reader of the boards, do you think she reads LJ, too? She should! We probably write a lot more thoughtfully than those on the boards, and are probably less ranty, ;D
Podcast for The Captain's Hand
Holy crap, does Ron Moore sound ridiculously sarcastic in the 'Captain's Hand' podcast - are people really that whiney about background noises in the podcast?
Oh my God, he even got his wife in on it at the end!!! That was SO FUNNY! So sarcastic! RDM, you win at life.
Downloaded
I've always felt a little queasy about Caprica!Sharon (well, now Galactica!Sharon....let's just all call her Mom, okay??), but seriously, who the hell strangles Doctor Cottle?! BITCH! But no matter which Sharon Valerii....Grace Park sucks at acting angry.
When Anders was first on the show, I was not a fan. But now that Lee is whoring it up with Dee....ANDERS! I'd forgotten how hot he was, ;D I hope Kara finds some happiness with him. (By the way....wtf is up with her hair in the promos?! Do 3 months pass or something?)
Gaius is a hell of a lot more attractive when we get to see him as a manipulative bastard inside of Six's head. Although, in terms of being physically attractive, he really needs to cut his hair.
I am SO EXCITED for the next two episodes!! I love BSG when it's like this - all these random seeds planted attached with strings and then somebody pulls on the threads all at once and they come together. I miss the Chief.
If, as the episode and podcast "Downloaded" seem to definitely imply, the Six in Baltar's head is really an extension of himself...does this mean that Baltar is subconsciously really religious? He's always using Six to tell himself to just wait and trust in God. Watching this show is like peeling an onion. The layers have no limits.
Lay Down Your Burdens, part 1
I want Baltar propaganda!
I really loved watching Roslin get the giggles. In the podcast, Ron Moore said that David Eick didn't want it in there, but I'm really glad that they kept it. It seems very real, and I think everyone has had moments when they just can't stop giggling (or maybe that's just me, since it happens every day). Watching Admiral Adama take her arm and having her just collapse giggling on him was so funny - I really love watching their relationship. It's so cute, so necessary, and so natural.
Sharon says there's something dark lurking....a nuclear bomb, perhaps?! My roommate (on Friday nights, my friends are forced to have BSG playing in the background while I sit in rapt attention in front of the television) keeps asking hey, where is the nuke? And I think, OMG I KNOW! Also, hooking her up to the computers after she thinks they killed her baby doesn’t seem like the best plan. Wahhh, what if they DO settle on this planet, and that's when the nuke is used?! That would be teh suck, liek whoa.
The scene with Lee/Kara was kind of sad, when he told her that he hoped she finds Anders. After watching him in "Scar," I really do think that he loves her, but just wants her to be happy. Oh Lee, you are so gallant!
This Tyrol storyline reminds me of the “Noel” episode from The West Wing, with Josh. And I know somebody else wrote a huge thing on it, so kudos to them. The link is here. I agree that Noel is way better - but I mean, I don't really think there's anybody alive on the planet who could outwrite Aaron Sorkin. I do think RDM probably ripped off the plot idea - he has made references to The West Wing in the past.
I really didn't think it was necessary for the Chief to think that he was a Cylon (and maybe he didn't - could've just been a misguided inference made by the chaplain). I mean, the woman he loves passionately turns out to be a Cylon, and not only that, but she is shot dead by one of his closest friends. Not only THAT, but an exact copy of the woman he loves is in love with someone else, and carries his child. Not only all of this, but humanity is all but wiped out, and I'm sure that the Chief has a lot of stress to deal with. I don't think it's outside of the realm of possibility for him to be having depression issues or suicidal tendencies.
Also, I don't understand the connection between his suicidal dreams and beating Cally in his dreams. A friend of mine has pointed out that the violent beating would be appropriate for someone with Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (what Josh had in The West Wing, actually!), but it doesn't make sense that someone who's depressed/suicidal would physically lash out like that. Having some interesting years in high school myself, the only thing that makes sense to me would be a mentality of "I have to fight the darkness, I have to beat it back, you will not defeat me, you sonofabitch get outside of my head" etc. - but for this to be the case, I think that there would need to be a lot more explanation.
I thought that the chaplain had some good points about religion, but his conclusion that the Chief thinks he's a Cylon seemed drawn out of nowhere to me. And I think that this was trying really hard to parallel the end of the scene from "Noel" in The West Wing, when the psychologist Stanley tells Josh that they're done and he can leave and Josh says, "No, we're not done! I haven't even talked about my feelings yet!" and is left bewildered. It worked really well in The West Wing. But in Battlestar Galactica, it really feels like a lot of times, they do shock-value for the sake of doing shock-value. Because "that is what Battlestar Galactica is." But for shock to be effective, it needs to make sense in context. And while the larger concept of Chief thinking he might be a Cylon is plausible, they need to do a better job of explaining it. If they're going to bother flashing back to the Chief's dream, then maybe they could flashback to situations with Sharon - her freaking out to the Chief in "Water," etc. as he slowly realizes that the person he loves is a Cylon. It's not like it would cost more money.
Instead of using this plotline to fill up space, I think it would be great for them to bring some kind of psychologist on the Galactica and have everyone deal with their crap for an episode. Everyone in the fleet should be experiencing psychological trauma, but I guess the show can only deal with it one person at a time, with an entire episode devoted to it so that they can promptly forget about it (See "Black Market" and "Scar").
“People vote their hopes, not their fears.” Really? I guess they don’t know the results of the 2004 election! I was quite gleeful when I listened to Ron Moore saying that he and (David Eick? I think?) had the same argument. Of course, it depends on the election cycle and who's running, but excepting Ronald Reagan, I would definitely say that people vote their fears. Fear is more immediate. People are too cynical of politics to vote for everything that they hope a candidate will give them. Even if there is a hopeful platform, executive powers do not act independently - they have Congress to contend with, and I think that the president of the fleet has to deal with the Quorum?
It seemed like from the teaser for next week's episode, that Baltar would win. I really hope that he doesn't. Not because I think Roslin makes a better president (I mean, I do think that, but that's not why I'd be disgusted), but because I think it would be ridiculous for everyone to vote for Baltar just to settle on this planet. Everyone wants to settle down, obviously, but I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that the last 50,000 people comprising humanity are willing to sacrifice pleasure in order to stay alive. It's not just Roslin who should be pragmatic - when there are only 50,000 people left, then everyone is pragmatic. That's just how it is. How much of this planet have they checked out, anyway? How do they know the Cylons don't already know about it or make regular stops (I know someone in the episode said this, but I can't remember who).
Not being afraid of Cylons doesn't make them go away.
Also...that said, aren't there more Cylons in the fleet?? What the hell are they doing? Their goal seemed to be to destroy humanity, but now it just seems like they're keeping humans around to fuck with them.
I did like the 'There you go again!' quip by Roslin. Hearkening to real politics is always fun....but sometimes "hearkening back" can get old, too. It happened a lot this season in The West Wing, too - with the Santos/Vinick election stealing countless issues and comments right out of the Bush/Kerry race.
I loved that Starbuck kept saying "Team Starbuck" - OMG she saw this icon!!
Podcast for LYBD, part 1
I love listening to RDM's podcasts! Talking about Roslin saying, "Go frak yourself," and saying "A president would never do that....a vice president on the Senate floor, maybe." His political knowledge is so fun! Listening to him and his wife is so funny! They must sit and talk about BSG fandom all the time. So funny! So cute! "My wife does not read the boards! She is not reading them any more!"
"Why don't you want them to know?"
"They'll work you over!"
"....She's sort of an Ellen Tigh...." Ha, ha, ha.....
The finale is a risk and they're betting a lot?!?! Some of us will hate it!? His wife hated it?! And then loved it?!! OMG, WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN?????
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I would definitely say that people vote their fears.
I think this is a matter of perspective: supporters of any candidate generally, at the same time, Hope that their candidate will effectuate X, and at the same time fear that the opposing candidate will not effectuate X. I have a lot to say about several of your comments, but I have no intention of saying anything that would spark a political debate/controversey/flamewar in here.
I think it is cool that Moore's wife checks out the boards. I don't read any message boards other than what is on LJ, so I can't vouch for the quality fo the posts here as opposed to elsewhere, but I think we do a decent job. Someone should fire off an email to them.
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And, yeah! Maybe we should make Grant (founder of battlestar_blog, for those who don't know) do it, heehee!
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A psychologist-themed episode would be good, and even better if the psychologist turned out to be a Cylon in disguise. But then again, maybe adding a Cylon twist would be too predictable, paralleling the plotline in "Final Cut."