laceblade | Battlestar Galactica: "Scar"

Firstly, I should say that I was gone this weekend, and so was Chad. Which is unfortunate, as Chad always tapes BSG for me (because, being a college student, I tend to not be in my dorm room at 9:00 on Friday nights). HOWEVER, he TiVoed this one or something, and put it on a DVD. And what an episode to have, because it had HOT!PILOT!ACTION in it! XD Heeheehee, and so many cute things, too! So glorious! So much better than "Black Market!" *takes a chill pill* Hokai, let's see if I can be rational.

I find it really interesting that in the podcast of this week's episode, Ron Moore and the writers have a I just wanted to get laid," and Lee is like, "BULLSHIT, there is *definitely* something here, but I'm going to let you work through your shit and we can get it on later."
discussion about how the gender roles are reversed in "Scar." The male new recruits are terrified of dying, while the women (and by women, I mean Kara and Kat - the only two viper pilots visible) are tough and tell them how to keep their heads in the game and are competing with their piloting skills. But when we see the pilots sitting in the briefing room, I do believe that Kara and Kat are the only females present. I remember in season one, there seemed to be a lot more of a balance. Did I not look closely enough, or is this true?

I thought the scene of Kara sitting with the bottle in front of the screen watching Scar was really ironic. The last time she was sucking it down with both hands, I was reminded of a baby with a bottle.

I loved the scene between Kara and Lee, and not just because I want desperately for them to be a couple. I loved it because Lee is holding back. "Is this a race?" He keeps pleading with her to slow down - he wants this to mean something. You can really tell that Lee cares about Kara in this episode. We know he's willing to bed with people with whom he has no emotional attachments, but he won't let the people he cares about do it. When he asks her if she's all right after her fight with Kat, I thought that that was also a pretty emotional scene. I kept wanting this episode to end with Kara crying and Lee holding her, just as a friend. I think that they're kind of in the same place psychologically right now. It's just that Kara's episode was executed exactly as Lee's should have been - planted throughout episodes, with flashbacks, and actually interacting with other people on the ship.

I really did like the slapping that happened in this episode. Earlier in the series, we witness an argument between Kara and Lee, in which she slaps Lee and he slaps her right back. It shows us what kind of relationship they have. Yet, in this episode, Kara slaps Lee and he doesn't physically hit her back. Kat slaps Kara, and Kara uncharacteristically does not physically retaliate. Both of them are sick of fighting back; and, I think in Lee's case, realizes that he cares too much to be able to make himself be a hardass.

I keep jumping around....but I also loved the end of the almost!sex Kara/Lee scene when Kara is all, "Hey,
Helo and Kara's relationship is really, really cute. Why? I guess because you know that it can't progress into more!than-friends. According to the podcast, the bit at the very end of the episode was all taken just from the cameras continuing to roll while the actors goofed off. AWWWWW!

I very much enjoyed the Boomer/Starbuck interaction. Too bad Boomer is stuck in her cell. I hated her at the beginning of the series, but find myself liking her more as time goes on - ie, the more I know about Cylons. Is this weird??

I find it odd that Kara is drinking so much. Kara kills things when she's pissed; she yells at Tigh for putting people in jeopardy and I don't know if I believe it that she'd do the same thing. I really, really liked Kat in this episode. She was right and she knew it - she was just like Starbuck was two seasons ago.

Lee felt like Lee again in this episode. Mostly because he was interacting with other people. Jamie Bamber is a good actor. "Black Markets" was just....bad. :(

Who the hell is in charge of Pegasus? They are sending over trained pilots, but who is training them?!

WTF; WHERE IS THE NUKE?!?!

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And Kara just wanted a good Frak. LOVED that line!!

I don't like Kat. I think I would've shot her by now.

It's not really a role reversal for women to be better and more daring pilots than men in Sci-Fi. A great deal of Sci-Fi literature claims that women make a better soldier in almost any situation, especially piloting.

It's tough to comment because you keep skipping around. But the near sex scene is very important to show that Lee is all for a relationship with Kara. There is also a stereotypical role reversal here where the woman is looking for a good frack, and the guy asks to slow down.

Kat may have been right, but it wasn't her place to say something. There are serious problems with the chain of command on Galactica.

What was so bad about Blackmarket?

When I (and the podcast with Ron Moore/writers) say "role reversal," I don't mean SciFi specifically, but the "gender roles" of society at large.

For my thoughts on Black Market, please see my previous post.

True enough... two amusing, if not interesting examples. Robert Heinlien has a number of hot lady pilots throughout his stories, and in fact it was Federal Policy in Starship Troopers that starship pilots be women. The other more amusing example, is that the interceptor pilots, the Angel Squadron that protected the S.P.E.C.T.U.M base in The Anderson's Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons were women. I had it BAD for Melody as a kid... Geek city.

Banzai!

Those are great examples. Also, in God Emperor of Dune the military is entirely female.

um that main female character in Starship Troopers (the pilot whatever her name was) was trained by a man if you remember.

He was not a major character in the book, the film version of Heinlien's Story is a rather dodgy adaptation, very distorted from the original story. The Flight instructor character was added to provide the obligatory hollywood romantic triangle and class conflict bullS***t.

Still, it was fun. But I was hoping for the modile suits! LOL

ah, I never heard much about the book

There were other female pilots in the briefing room.

Also, I have to say I hope they DON'T pair Lee and Kara. It's such a Moonlighting copout. Oh, looky, we hooked up our two leads.

Boring. And annoying, too, because tons of stories have paired leads who have no sexual relationship at all. Of course, they're usually same-sex. The implication here that there's no way for Lee and Kara to merely be friends and partners because they're opposite sex is beneath the otherwise-advanced treatment of gender on the show.

Not every opposite-sex pair of buddies/leads has to eventually be romantically linked. Not every same-sex pair has to NOT be romantically linked. This show is too good to adhere so blindly to convention like that.

I agree. They could play up the sexual tension without ever consummating it. They already havea complicated relationship because of Lee's brother...

I'm not cheering for a relationship simply because they both happen to be leads on the show. I think both of them have shown genuine care and concern for each other, and I think that on occasion, it's gone a bit deeper than just a friendship. For example, Lee kissing Kara when she returns from Kobol. I don't know....everything physical they've done thus far (all two scenes that happen to be 'romantic') has felt entirely natural to me.

Well, it's been framed that way since the beginning. My objection is that it shouldn't have been. It's far too easy to pair up the leads. The writers on this show are too bright for such over-trodden territory.

technically all ideas are over-trodden if you look through all movies and all literature. About every idea has been done. You just have to do what's right for your particular story and not worry if others have done it also.

It ISN'T right for this story, though. They work better as a team, not romantically.

Maybe so. And yeah I get tired of all opposite sex teams falling in love too. Like with long running sitcoms that have a female and male lead, everyone thinks they have to couple up.

But if they aren't to couple up... how about Kara with Helo and Lee with that petty officer from CIC, I forget her name.

Since it probably won't work out with Helo and Sharon since she's a very hated enemy.

See, I feel about Helo/Kara the same way textualdeviance feels about Lee/Kara - they work better as friends. I think that Helo is way too duty-bound to his unborn child to be able to move on to someone else. And despite how much everybody else hates Sharon, I think Helo still loves her.

And as for Lee with Dualla (the petty officer), well....I don't know, that whole relationship seemed to come way out of left field. It's like they cut out a lot of vital scenes or something. And I like her too much with Billy to feel all right with her hooking up with Lee.

<3 Billy!

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