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laceblade ([personal profile] laceblade) wrote2013-01-04 09:34 am
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WisCon 37 Anime/Manga Programming Idea-Generation Fest

Let’s talk about what we would like to see at WisCon 37 for anime/manga programming. Post any thoughts you have, however semi-formed.

People can comment & try to come up with the best panels possible! At WisCon, anyone can suggest panel ideas: People who run the convention, authors, attendees, or people who have never attended WisCon and never will. Thus: Please feel free to join in!

If the comments go in a direction you dislike, or you don't want to participate in the discussion, you can submit your own program idea here.

Programming submissions will close in a couple weeks.

Here's a link to last year's programming generation fest.


WisCon 36 had:
Fairy Tales in Shoujo Anime & Manga (write-up)
Utena: The Revolution Continues (write-up)
Anime & Manga: What I've Read/Watched Since WisCon35 (low-key, everyone was in a circle in one of the sixth-floor rooms)

WisCon 35 had:
Looking Beyond the Gender Binary in Anime and Manga
Fumi Yoshinaga’s Ooku: The Inner Chambers

WisCon 34 had:
Teamwork: How Anime and Manga Fill A Feminist Void In SF/F
The Works of Hayao Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli

WisCon 33 had:
Female Power in Shounen Manga (Spontaneous Programming) (write-up)

WisCon 32 had:
Shoujo Bodies (Spontaneous Programming) (write-up)



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[personal profile] julieandrews 2013-01-04 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
It occurs to me looking over that list that none of the panels have explicitly addressed shounen-ai/BL/yaoi.
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[personal profile] owlectomy 2013-01-04 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I would definitely be interested in a BL-related panel!

I have, err, read quite a lot of BL from the early classic stuff like Heart of Thomas and Song of the Wind and Trees to more contemporary stuff, and could probably talk anybody's ears off about My Thoughts On Yaoi... I guess the obvious topic is BL as appropriation of gay male sexuality versus BL as expression of female sexuality. (My experience has been that, although this is now changing a little bit, BL has been much more willing to define itself as existing in a fantasy world having nothing to do with actual gay people, compared to slash fandom. ?) But that could get pretty contentious.

Would be interesting to compare manga about gay men outside the BL genre (e.g., ones written by and for men instead of women), and realistic josei manga with lesbian characters.
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[personal profile] owlectomy 2013-01-04 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
In maybe 10 or 11 years of thinking about this I have not really come to an adequate answer other than "Yes, both," so... I guess it's a topic I don't feel entirely comfortable declaiming about because I feel like there's an excellent chance that I am on the wrong side and yet I feel like it's inadequate to say "Well, I like something that's pretty problematic, oh well," if only because there are parts of the classic shoujo manga that are so heartbreakingly good.

It would! I'm trying to think of examples of the former, and can think of none.
I feel like there should be examples of the latter, but can't think of any of those, either -_-


I know the former exist, but I haven't actually read any. For the latter, I would certainly want to talk about Ohana Holoholo, which I LOVE, but I don't know how well it qualifies. (It's about two women living together and raising a kid, as "just friends," who used to be in love with each other, but their only quasi-romantic-relationships in the "present" timeline are with men. THEY ARE GOING TO GET BACK TOGETHER. I KNOW IT.) Anyway, this is definitely something I'd do more research on if it turns into a proposed panel.

I think it's fair to say that almost nothing of either kind has gotten professional English translations, so, I don't know if you'd want this to turn into the "Let's talk about manga that nobody else has read!" panel.
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Realistic josei manga w/lesbian characters/yuri

[personal profile] coffeeandink 2013-01-16 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Sweet Blue Flowers is a schoolgirl lesbian romance by the mangaka of Wandering Son and is supposed to be very sweet and nonexploitative; available at Jmanga (and also a scanlation by one of the btter groups).

Rica 'tte Kanji!? is an autobiographical josei manga by a lesbian mangaka who comes out when she comes to the city for university, which came out in English from a small press, and is adorable.

Blue by Kiriko Nananan?

There is probably more, but I'm blanking on it. I have to admit most of the lesbian manga I have seen that doesn't make me cringe has been scanlated by Lililicious.
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[personal profile] oyceter 2013-01-09 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I would totally go to something that was you talking all about yaoi and classic BL and everything!!!
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[personal profile] julieandrews 2013-01-04 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I got the impression the author knew more than she was writing, because of the market she was writing for. But yea, the headline got me annoyed, but when I skimmed the article, it seemed more full of substance than the headline implied.

I would _hope_ most people at WisCon wouldn't be surprised that m/m romance for women by women was a Thing!