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laceblade ([personal profile] laceblade) wrote2009-12-19 04:29 pm
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I think I can explain what I didn't like about Avatar enough without spoiling anything.

I liked the protagonist (mostly) and I liked the graphics.

But I feel like this is James Cameron's "I just watched an anime and now I'm going to make a movie!"

I cringed with apprehension in the first 5 minutes, and the loosened up over the next 30. By the end I was shuddering repeatedly with James Cameron's self-righteousness.

This movie could also be titled, OMG GEORGE BUSH IS SO EVIL! I WILL SPEND $300,000,000 TO EXPLAIN WHY!!

There could be a lot of interesting discussion on bodies in this movie, and obviously race. I look forward to the response of fandom.

I recommend the write-up by [livejournal.com profile] nihilistic_kid, although it spoils everything if you're concerned about things like that.



Overall: It was not as squicky as I thought it would be, but I was underwhelmed/annoyed by the heavy-handedness and refusal to go a lot deeper.

[identity profile] tigrin.livejournal.com 2009-12-19 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm predicting that this movie is going to be the next Twilight in terms of everyone absolutely hating it... good luck trying to get a positive or neutral discussion about any part of the film.
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[identity profile] mystickeeper.livejournal.com 2009-12-19 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe.....I saw it with two LJ friends who are highly critical on representations of gender/race/disability in media, and they both liked it a lot.

It did seem like a lot of people hated it before even seeing it, which is partly why I went to form my own opinion.

It'll be interesting to see if it ends up being profitable for Cameron or not.



I did enjoy myself through most of the film....it's always the negative aspects that are most easy for me to articulate.

[identity profile] tigrin.livejournal.com 2009-12-20 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
I think it'll definitely be profitable... my sister managed to enjoy it and she really doesn't like that sort of stuff... I think the average Joe will like it at least. My dad was so thrilled with it he was talking it up with his wife afterwards, who REALLY doesn't like movies like Avatar. I think it's like any 'bad' movie that's relatively entertaining... I think the Transformers movies are fun and entertaining, but a lot of people find them offensive. It's not that I don't see why, I guess I just don't mind as much.

[identity profile] lavendersleeves.livejournal.com 2009-12-20 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
I doubt I'll see it. Movies in Japan are quite expensive. More importantly, I have a deep and completely biased hatred of CGI.
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[identity profile] mystickeeper.livejournal.com 2009-12-20 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
Really?? Yeah, if you hate CGI, I guess that I would not recommend seeing this movie.

To be fair, though the CGI of blue people to humans, of landscape to crawling military machines was quite seamless, and impressive. Leaps and bounds ahead of Final Fantasy/Advent Children/etc.

[identity profile] lavendersleeves.livejournal.com 2009-12-20 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I hated that, too. It just feels...I dunno, fake? But Final Fantasy was for a totally different reason (From Wikipedia: 'Another problem is the distasteful psychological response to viewing nearly perfect animation of humans, known as "the uncanny valley."')

But this is different. I don't like when people try to mix animation styles (hand-drawn with CGI) or live action with animation. I don't think they mesh well, and it's jarring. It also feels, to me, to be a bit half-assed. The company uses whichever is easiest, and when it stops being easiest, they switch to something else. If they wanted to use animation, they should have used it through the whole production--but they couldn't do that, because then it would be an animated film, and fewer people would go watch it. So really, it's done for money.

Using CGI is like using gold lame in a costume. You have to go very easy with it, or it looks like you tried too hard.

[identity profile] troubleinchina.livejournal.com 2009-12-20 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not going to bother seeing it mostly because I'm certain it will make me throw up. I thought I was going to puke when I saw New Moon.

[identity profile] sasha-feather.livejournal.com 2009-12-20 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
The racism and appropriation were what made me the most uncomfortable, especially the speeches, as was mentioned in [livejournal.com profile] deadbrowalking. I don't see why the plot had to go there, or why no one along the way couldn't have seen how bad that was and put a stop to it. It turned what could have been a very interesting premise about bodies and experiences into a racist, white-guilt-ridden piece of crap, really.

I mean, there were other things I liked about it. I like the animation, the art direction, the creatures and plants. I loved Michelle Rodriguez and Sigourney Weaver.

I'm still mulling over the disability portrayals, because I think it wasn't as bad as it could have been, but it was still problematic: it's assumed that no human would want to give up their body and take on the Avatar body unless the human body was already broken or damaged. Which places the human body, in a subtle way, as superior to the Na'vi body, and presents disabled or injured bodies as disposable. It also emphasizes a mind/body disconnect, the idea that brains are separate from bodies. There is some good food for thought there, that I will continue to chew on, and I wish the movie had gotten into that more, and laid off all the colonialism and war crap.

[identity profile] ogre911.livejournal.com 2009-12-26 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
And now I won't spend $10.00 to see this in the theater. Thanks Jackie :)