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laceblade ([personal profile] laceblade) wrote2010-05-23 01:44 pm

A Review and Some Commentary

I really enjoyed the first season of Spice & Wolf, and would recommend it. The anime is based on a series of light novels originally written in Japanese (and the English translations put out by Yen Press are pretty fantastic - and I often dislike translations of Japanese fiction). Although there will be a second season, the first season definitely has a sense of closure. I liked the characters, mood, and setting very much, and I recommend it!
When I first saw advertisements for this series, I was afraid that it would be a little moe, but was glad to find that this was not the case.
[livejournal.com profile] etrangere has a nice review in the second half of this post, complete with a couple of pictures.



With the closing of DC Comics' CMX line (which mostly translated/distributed shoujo comics in the U.S.), there have been many intense blog posts (basically, DC never did much to promote CMX; they shut down their Minx line [also for teenage girls] in recent memory, etc).

One intense post focuses on the supposed "detrimental effect" that distributing/reading scanlations has on the sales market of manga in the U.S. It's here, written by Erica Friedman (who writes a lot about yuri manga). In this post and many others, I sometimes find classist assumptions in the anime/manga fandom: basically, that "every manga you read is one that you did not buy," which I find highly presumptive.

While I understand the principle that "voting with your dollar" certainly matters (hello, I work in an independent bookstore a few weekends per month), the idea that everyone has an equitable (or infinite) disposable income is ludicrous.

I don't mind paying money for a quality product (see Del Rey's releases of xxxHolic and Tsubasa, or Viz's Signature Line releases of Pluto, 20th Century Boys, etc). But in many cases, the money you pay does not result in a quality product. Take the Sailor Moon manga I own - they are extremely valuable because they are out of print in the U.S., but the glue job was so shoddy that half of them are falling apart despite my militant care-taking. Take also Viz's questionable translation of Fumi Yoshinaga's Ooku - yeah, I'm still buying it, but I remain displeased with Viz's translation.

Additionally, I'm probably not going to invest in Volume 1 of a 28-volume series without having read a bit, to make sure that I like where the story is going. This is about an intelligent use of my money.

To think that I would drop $8-14 on a single volume (usually readable in one 2-hour sitting - usually much less) without having read it first? For me, at least (and I will go ahead and admit that I am pretty cheap), this isn't even a question. Of course I will sample it first. And if it's not readily available at my public library (which I do use quite liberally), then yes, you'd better believe that I will download and read scanlations.
Even when I do buy manga, it is rarely at full-price - I go out of my way to scour used bookstores (and, full disclosure, even when I do buy them "new," I get an employee discount, so it's still not comparable to the average consumer).

And this is the thought-process of me, who comes from a privileged economic background and is fortunate enough to have a job that allows me to easily provide for my own needs. Especially in the state of the current U.S. economy, most people do not have the money it takes to support a single series (especially if it comes out in rapid succession, like Naruto).

Friedman goes so far as to condemn the scanlation/digital distribution of manga series not even available in English (i.e., those new in Japan, or which were never chosen for U.S. distribution). What exactly are we supposed to do? To suggest that everyone who wants to read a series not licensed in the U.S. has the leisure time to learn a foreign language (not to mention afford to buy all of the series on the Internet and have them shipped here) is nonsensical to me.


I get that buying things is the optimal choice, and if you've ever been inside my apartment, you're aware that I am certainly trying my best. However, in some cases, people do not have a choice, and I think that it is elitist and classist (or occasionally both) to assume otherwise.
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[personal profile] littlebutfierce 2010-05-23 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
YESSSSSSS to this post.

Part of the reason I don't read manga more is b/c it IS so damn expensive, for the time it takes me to read it--& now the library system I have access to is even crappier & less likely to have manga I want to read too.

And also? I thought the whole thing w/people consuming nonlicensed stuff was that it was basically acting as a free focus group for companies deciding what to license--at least that was the impression I got wrt fansubs back in the day. It's true that you will undoubtedly not bring all of those reading scanlations/watching fansubs over to the register to buy your licensed product, but like you point out, you wouldn't have gotten all of them anyway. And I'm sure buzz online about a series, whether or not it's from someone who would purchase the licensed version of something, is generally a good thing for sales...
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[identity profile] mystickeeper.livejournal.com 2010-05-23 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
There are also a lot of public libraries that treat entire manga series as one series - so you can't request volume 15 of Series X - it's SO frustrating! I didn't even write about that in the post, and I should have - I have a great library. But oftentimes, the quality of your library is determined by the amount of taxes that you and your neighbors are required to pay, based on their income/general wealth.

That's true, too - a lot of people I know are upset with the quality (or more like lack thereof) of series coming over, and yeah, I think that the buzz generated about certain series (after a fansub/scanlation group has chosen it for distribution) really does have a lot to do with that.
That at least, I can understand as a critique about how distribution groups have an effect on the U.S. marketplace.

[identity profile] sophy.livejournal.com 2010-05-23 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
It's hard because I'm all about responsible consumerism, but as my situation has become harsher financially speaking, I'm realizing how much I am now forced to shop less responsibly and it makes me sad. I don't know anything about manga and all that, so this is just in general with things like groceries and clothes and such. And it often does become elitist and classist on the left because people care about things like environmental impacts and helping local markets and taking care not to abuse and take advantage of areas that are more impoverished than we are, etc. And I care about all of those things, too. A lot. But sometimes necessity dictates that I can't act on that care. Or that I have to choose between acting on it in this one way and then going without something in this other area, etc. So yea, in other words: good rant.

[identity profile] seaya.livejournal.com 2010-05-24 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Ooooh boy, Erica Friedman.

I made the mistake of asking her about why the heroine in her own manga was Japanese but had blonde hair and blue eyes. You would not believe the fail.

She's pretty special.
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[identity profile] mystickeeper.livejournal.com 2010-05-24 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
....Wow!

I've read some posts by her before, and liked them, so I'm kind of surprised by the failtasticness at work here. :[
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[identity profile] mystickeeper.livejournal.com 2010-05-24 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah - I try really hard to refrain from lecturing people about shopping at Wal-Mart or at Amazon.com. It's easy for me to say, if I can afford to make those choices, but not everyone can. It gets to a certain point where you can't "cut back" anywhere else to make those economic choices any more.

[identity profile] seaya.livejournal.com 2010-05-24 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
She is very knowledgeable about her favorite parts of anime and manga fandom, it's true. But, she likes being that expert and doesn't like anyone to steal her thunder. (Not that I ever could, but just elucidating another aspect of her.)

So, you may have liked and appreciated something she's written, because she does do research and has set herself up as the only translator of several things, so fandom is kinda beholden to her for stuff, so that's sort of fueled her ego.

Really, I just stay away, knowing even so that she does indeed know a lot about certain things.

EDIT: And I forgot to add here. Her explanation for the blonde hair and blue eyes of her heroine Yuriko was that no, they are not hair dye, or wigs, or contacts. She really is Japanese 100% and she really has blonde hair and blue eyes, because "[she] likes women with blonde hair and blue eyes, so [she] wanted to give the character blonde hair and blue eyes". She didn't get why that was shady. "It's just a character." My tying it to actual real Japanese women was met with total lack of comprehension.
Edited 2010-05-24 01:51 (UTC)
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[identity profile] mystickeeper.livejournal.com 2010-05-24 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
It's kind of hilarious that she was the only translator of something for U.S. fans, considering her current stance on scanlations - if I was a devoted reader of hers, she would have just lost a lot of credibility with me.

[identity profile] seaya.livejournal.com 2010-05-24 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, she makes money doing it too. :)

Conflict of interest much?

[identity profile] tigrin.livejournal.com 2010-05-24 10:51 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with a lot of the things you said about scanlations. I've probably read thousands of dollars in scanlations. Most of which I probably didn't end up buying, or wasn't available to buy in the US anyway. Do I feel guilty? A little. But the reality is that I would probably never have read the series at all if I wasn't able to read them online. The series that I really love, I do end up buying, and it's usually worth it... some of them I will even go out of my way to buy when they are released in Japanese, then in English (oh god I have so many volumes of Kingdom Hearts and Loveless). But it's financially impossible to follow a series like, say, Hajime no Ippo, which spans over 90 volumes... I don't think it's even available in the US come to think of it. I do go out of my way to wait for coupons to buy manga, which probably seems ridiculous, but $12 a volume really adds up over time. I think it really sucks that there is this catch-22 that makes it difficult for publishers to earn money off of licensed manga, but I have no idea what can be done about it.

I've given Spice and Wolf a couple really honest shots, and I just can't seem to follow it. Once it touches on economics, my eyes glaze over. Possibly why I am so incoherent in this comment discussing money.