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laceblade ([personal profile] laceblade) wrote2009-09-25 07:14 am
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Re-evaluateof your feelings toward Joss Whedon, if you haven't already done so

Here is a link to a post by author Matt Ruff, who found a Q&A with Joss Whedon.

Apparently it was FOX, and not Joss, who has severe discomfort with the skeevy premise of show.


My icon (plus the promise of post-apocalyptic-ness) is why I will continue watching!

Share the reasons why you will (if you are, I know there are a few of you out there!) continue watching in the comments!


Also, be sure to employ the use of [livejournal.com profile] takumashii's new verb.

Example: I am currently Dollhousing New Moon, by Stephanie Meyer.
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[personal profile] raanve 2009-09-25 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know that the logic that Whedon presents makes much sense, but OKAY. I still haven't seen the 13th episode, so I might put off watching season 2 until I can find a way to do that. (This is a Hulu-queue show for me, anyway, so.)

The show I'm currently Dollhousing (besides Dollhouse), is Glee. I'm hanging in, even though I think the show has MASSIVE issues. I'm sort of wondering about the level of squee the show generates in fandom, because its issues are so glaringly obvious/painful. But it's interesting enough, and it has a certain level of charm, and I like singing, so... yeah. Totally Dollhousing it; and watching it with a critical eye.

ETA: I forgot to give my reasons for continuing to watch. I do like watching Dollhouse with the critic-brain engaged, even though it leads to eye-rolling. There are some great actors involved (though I'm not enamored of Dushku, really). Sometimes the show does make me chuckle. I like that it evokes a big response in me, even if that response is often AUGHHHHHH WHYYYYYYY. It can be sort of fun. I want to have lots of nerdy conversations about it on the internets and at WisCon.
Edited 2009-09-25 15:41 (UTC)

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-09-25 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Because I hate myself, because Tim Minear is coming onboard, because they keep casting actors I like, because I clearly enjoy my own suffering, because it promises post-apocalyptc-nes, even though the post-apocalypse we saw didn't make a lot of sense, because everyone needs that one awful thing they can't abandon that makes them appreciate good things, and because Dichen Lachman and Enver Gjojik (I'll never learn how to spell his name) refuse to quit and go star in a series about bickering private eyes so that I can ship their characters without Deep Deep Shame. (Usually when I talk about Fictional Love of Shame, I'm joking about the actual shame. Not so much here.)

[identity profile] were-duck.livejournal.com 2009-09-25 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL icon love!

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-09-25 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I *cough* could hook you up with the 13th episode. (Which I didn't think much of, but most seem to love.)

[identity profile] sophy.livejournal.com 2009-09-25 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
That ... doesn't even surprise me. There are plenty of things in the show I can almost pinpoint exactly and go "yep, FOX made him move that scene over there" or "the network wanted it to go in that direction instead". Which is not to say that I think Joss is perfect and all of the problems with the show stem from FOX. At all. But I do feel that Joss is trying to make some major points about things that FOX cannot allow him to make because it disrupts their entire purpose for being. Honestly, this show would have been better done as an online show like Dr. Horrible because it's criticizing the very foundation of advertising and of course television is based around advertising. So. Yea. Awwwwkwaaaard!!

I'm still watching because this is the first Joss show I've been able to watch while it's airing instead of on DVD way after the fact and I'm enjoying not knowing all kinds of things about the future of the show (future actors, favorite ships, cultural references or major critiques of episodes I haven't seen yet, etc.).
Also because I enjoy watching the show critically. I'm excited about the new cast members coming on. I think they are struggling with some very interesting themes and while some of it is oogey and/or just-not-quite-there-yet it's still interesting to see what they're doing. And because I actually think Dushku is a great actress and handles the different characters she plays well and I enjoy seeing her range. Maybe I'm crazy. But whatever.

So, I'm Dollhousing Dollhouse because I'm a TV junkie and will watch just about anything anyway, and this is still better than most?

[identity profile] takumashii.livejournal.com 2009-09-26 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I will Dollhouse almost anything that's not too utterly stupid for me to have on as background noise while I knit.

That said, I find that it at least raises interesting questions when it's not doing the whole sexy-chicks-in-peril routine, even if it then addresses those questions stupidly. If I give up on it, it'll be because it turns into Gilligan's Island -- "Hey, remember that one episode where they nearly got out of the Dollhouse?"

[identity profile] lavendersleeves.livejournal.com 2009-09-28 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I'm dollhousing Bleach. I think it stopped being good about 3 years ago. I'm pretty sure it's been over a year since the main character was even in the story line. This same fight scene has been going on, what, ever since I came to Japan? Every week I say that I'll not continue to read it, but it's only 20 pages...