ext_13202 ([identity profile] bibliofile.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] laceblade 2009-03-03 05:24 am (UTC)

Who are the Nielsen Haydens? Fanzine fans who have helped run cons, including worldcons (e.g., Iguanacon), and ended up working in the industry.

Patrick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Nielsen_Hayden) is now the big editor-person at Tor, which means he pretty much has more clout than anyone in SF publishing ATM. (Or that's my take on it; WD may have a better explanation.)

Teresa (http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Teresa_Nielsen_Hayden) has worked in other genres but still within the publishing industry. For a while, she was editing romance novels. Now she moderates discussions over at BoingBoing. Her book on copy editing, Making Book, is the only work-related book that ever produced a fanzine-like reaction (I wanted to write a letter of comment, which is "the usual" response to a fanzine).

I have had little direct contact with Patrick; I once went to dinner in a group that included Teresa (at Corflu, one of the oldfartfanzinefan cons). I've seen them both on panels at conventions such as Minicon, Fourth Street Fantasy, and Corflu. They both seemed fairly sane to me (with blind spots, just like the rest of us) until recently. They both know a lot about the history of fandom and the history of publishing (SF and mainstream).

They were also involved in the "TAFF Wars," another occasion when All Fandom Was Plunged Into War (cf. Chapter 12 for a reference (http://taff.org.uk/reports/rhott_c.html)). This conflict occurred in fanzines (like LiveJournal, only slower and through the mails) when the TAFF administrator's lover won the next year's race. (Those two are still married to each other and cohabiting happily, thank you.)

Um, there's probably more, but that's what I've got right now.

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