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laceblade ([personal profile] laceblade) wrote2008-05-26 11:14 pm
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This is what an ignorant jackass looks like

Okay, so it appears as though Something Awful has deleted the offensive post* made by a Wiscon attendee at her request. Indeed, she is so sorry.

So here is my question. I am assuming that people are going to want to discuss what happened. People should discuss what happened, and IMO, how it can be prevented next time.

I still have the window open on my laptop with the original post. Should I post the text in a public post so that it might be accessible to the interwebs once more? If so, where would be most appropriate: my personal blog, or the Wiscon blog? Is it offensive to re-post the material, or is it more offensive for the perpetrator to hurt people so egregiously and then do a hand-wave because she "did not even begin to consider how much harm it would do to people"?

I'd rather not re-post the pictures in my blog, and I'm not even sure that I could. If the post was deleted, I don't think that I can save them, even if they're still on a web browser window that's been open for hours.



*In case you missed it, someone who attended Wiscon spent her time snapping photographs of people without their permission, removing their faces from pictures, and uploading them to the Something Awful forums with some of the most hateful and ignorant commentary I have ever seen in my life. She attended panels such as "Fat is Not the Enemy," took pictures of people whom she considered to be fat, and then hatefully mocked them for the rest of the world to see, often posting people's names with the pictures. I felt physically ill reading the post, and was nearly in tears by the end of it.

I am disgusted and ashamed that this girl attends my University, and presumably lives in this city. I hope for her sake that our paths never cross. Verily, words would be exchanged.
(Thank God for Facebook, so I know what she looks like, am I right?)


ETA: Read the comments for a link to the first half of the original post. Also, the threads of that post on the SASS forums contain lots more pictures (did people find flickr pools?). People seem to be posting lots of just random photos from Wiscon, including a cute picture of [livejournal.com profile] littlebutfierce, [livejournal.com profile] raanve, and someone I don't recognize. NORMALITY, IT TRANSLATES TO LOLS. I guess I'm just really out of touch with Internet humor. I don't get it.

ETA2: One of the Con-Chairs has posted to the Wiscon LJ community, asking people to please cease violent threats of any kind. The post is here. Please sit tight, people. The Con-Chairs and ConCommittee are aware of the problem and working on it. Please refrain from posting personal information about the person in question, etc.

Also, the thread on SASS seems to be using pictures from the Wiscon Flickr pool in an ever-increasing number of posts. If you have photos of children on Flickr, please lock them. If you took photos of people without asking for their permission, I would recommend locking those as well, until you obtain it.


EDIT 3: Do not threaten the original poster (that's just stupid). Do not post her personal information (there is more than one person with her name in the world). If you happen across her personal information, I would go with: Do not contact her.

EDIT 4: If you want to disagree with my friends and I in the comments, that's fine. But if your comments are in any way derogatory, they will be deleted. I am open to discourse, but will not tolerate slurs.

ext_6446: (Drag yourself up off the floor and fight)

[identity profile] mystickeeper.livejournal.com 2008-05-27 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, it is the same post. She does name a number of people by first name (I didn't see last names, but there might be some). I don't get it, does Something Awful have a back-up forum?

Okay, so there it is. People beware: The post itself is bad enough. For the love of God, do yourself a favor and do not read the comments.

[identity profile] animal-eyes.livejournal.com 2008-05-27 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
Ahh I see those names now. I'm blind :P

It's some forum where you can comment.. about... things that people say on SA. So she decided to just copy & paste her post from SA onto there. ...okay.

I can't hep but notice that she made a big stink about asking SA to remove the post but isn't doing much about this extra post she put up herself.
ext_6446: (Real love cuts through the bullshit and)

[identity profile] mystickeeper.livejournal.com 2008-05-27 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. I also don't buy the crap about "I didn't think about what I was doing!" Well, obviously - the panels she attended were clearly over the course of days, and a lot of planning went into the post. In addition to being on Something Awful, it's been dug on Digg, etc. She is oh so clever, and may be an Internet celebrity now! I really can't think of any other purpose for making such a post, but maybe her "oh shit" reaction was realizing that a chunk of Wiscon attendees live in the same city as she does! They attend and work for the same University that she does! I wonder if the moment is something like, Oh my God, if I'm a bitch on the Internet, I might be a bitch in real life!

[identity profile] animal-eyes.livejournal.com 2008-05-27 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually think someone should call her on this still existing, seeing as she posted it herself and all. She can't do anything about repostings but if she's going to make a big stink about removing the SA post she should remove all the posts she personally made.

...I tried to (because I am an instigator, but I would have been polite) but I can't post on her LJ. Surprise.
ext_6446: (Buffy: Bitch please)

[identity profile] mystickeeper.livejournal.com 2008-05-27 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
According to her, she did not post them on the SASS forums; somebody else did, using a photo of her as an icon.

She has also now threatened to file a police report (I'm not sure what we are doing wrong?): http://hypersurfaces.livejournal.com/239218.html
ext_6446: (Buffy: Bitch please)

[identity profile] mystickeeper.livejournal.com 2008-05-27 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, wrong link. I meant: http://hypersurfaces.livejournal.com/240287.html
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ext_6446: (Reading)

[identity profile] mystickeeper.livejournal.com 2008-05-27 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, my plan has been to sit tight.

Thank you for this comment, I'll be sharing it with others.

(Anonymous) 2008-05-27 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh! I guess I wouldn't put it past the internetz. As long as she knows that it's sooooort of her own fault! *shrug*

[identity profile] animal-eyes.livejournal.com 2008-05-27 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
*cough* Me.

[identity profile] pecunium.livejournal.com 2008-05-27 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
She says this was mirrored by someone else.

Me, I say, petard, own, hoist.

Wanh!

TK

[identity profile] sasha-feather.livejournal.com 2008-05-27 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
I must be some kind of masochist for clicking that link at 1:30 am. Actually I just scanned the pictures and did not read the text, but it is obvious who the people are-- I mean, you can see B's name badge! Oh, shit storm. :(
ext_6446: (Drag yourself up off the floor and fight)

[identity profile] mystickeeper.livejournal.com 2008-05-27 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm sure that you in particular appreciated the reference to fibromyalgia.

[identity profile] commodorified.livejournal.com 2008-05-27 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
God knows I did, and she means me. Except actually I'm Marna and not Cynthia and vice-versa. So I was all "OMG CYNTHIA SHE GAVE YOU ALL MY SPOUSES AND SHE CALLED ME AMERICAN". :)

Also this is my favourite line from her complete fail at writing up our panel:

See, this was supposed to be a normal panel, where I could just learn and not be affected by all the shit from the other panels. Why couldn't I have nice things?

Sweetie, I think you will find you have answered your own question there.
ext_6446: (Buffy: Bitch please)

[identity profile] mystickeeper.livejournal.com 2008-05-27 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
My personal favorite was where she said everyone at Wiscon is a bitch. SAYS THE PERSON WHO PROCEEDS WITH THE REST OF THE MOST OFFENSIVE THREAD ANYWHERE, EVER, and believe you me, I have seen offensive shit on the Internet in my time.

[identity profile] commodorified.livejournal.com 2008-05-27 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'm a bitch, all right. But at least I am not fated to spend the next several years of my life as Wicon's Bitch. Unlike SOMEONE WE KNOW. :)

Wiscon's Bitch

[identity profile] bibliofile.livejournal.com 2008-05-28 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks, that made me laugh!

[identity profile] cynthia1960.livejournal.com 2008-05-28 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
We were trying to give her nice things to use in the panel, but she wouldn't take them.

Sorry about being mistakenly exiled to California. Be nice to Bill. I'll probably get tossed from a Senators game for yelling let's go Sharks and doing the shark chomp during a power play.

[identity profile] moondancerdrake.livejournal.com 2008-05-27 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
She did use names, in fact my first and last name (my professional name as an author was used) and she mentioned my son. So anyone who searches my name for my novels could find this as well, inclusing my little boy she insulted.

I agree, do not read the comments, it'll make ya'll sicker than the con flu.